You can’t know that one way or the other. Especially if he’s under some kind of influence.
Fine, say I put a loaded gun in Danny’s hands and he blows someone’s brains out. Are my hands clean? I’m the reason McCarthy got backed into a corner, you know. I did plenty of things to keep Senator Smith’s hands clean. You send a pack of hyenas after a vampire, someone’s going to get hurt.
Yeah, it is a waste of time. But you drag it there anyway. Do you even trust me anymore?
Neither can you. I can’t do nothing out of fear of a slight chance of retaliation.
That’s not the same, and you know it. Danny gets off on it. Those people are trained to deal with problems just like this one, and they know that killing him only makes it worse when he gets back. Have a little faith in them not being slobbering idiots. And someone will get hurt if he’s left to keep doing that, too. We need to prioritize the victims over Armand.
I drag it there? The first thing you did was tell me to leave it, like you're my father or my master. You're the one who doesn't trust me. If you don’t trust me, and you don't want the same future I do, then what are we doing?
Not every problem needs you jumping to the forefront to solve it. I don't mean that to hurt you, or to doubt your capabilities - but people drop dead and kill and go off the deep end here every damn day. I'm worried one day you're going to stick your neck out on the wrong one and...you won't come back. Do you get how much that scares me, Tim?
Yeah, they're trained in killing these kinds of problems.
We both know I'm not either of those things. I do trust you, Skippy - why do you think I looked high and low to find you after you died, even knowing the things I heard? And why do you think I gave all of myself to you? I didn't do any of that lightly.
The future I want is one where the slightest provocation doesn't send you spiraling back to all the mistakes I've made and throwing them in my face. If we can't move past them, then what are we doing? Maybe I unintentionally started it, but you've got no problem escalating.
And I'm supposed to, what? Ask your approval before I get involved in anything? I understand that you're scared. But if I can do anything, or offer any information, that might keep someone from going through what I'm going through, I have to choose that over your fear.
You're not learning from them, Hawk. That's why I brought it up, because you wanted me to shut up like last time. Will you have learned from them by the time we get home? Or will it be like it was before? If you don't want to be with a "crusader", tell me now, because that's how things are going to be.
No. But you could try thinking critically before bulldozing into it and being first on the scene.
I have learned, Tim. You just don't want to accept that sometimes I'm right, or that my approach is more measured and subtle than yours. I would have gladly jumped in with the best resources to get Armand the help he needed to stop chomping on the Balfours' girl du jour. Like Louis or Lestat - the people who know him and aren't likely to put a fucking stake through his head. If applying logic to it doesn't jive with your idea of immediacy, then that's not crusading - it's just foolish.
I'm not hiding anymore. I've got no intention of going back to the way things were.
Look...when we weren't ourselves, I saw his life laid out plain in the museum. I don't even have the words to explain it - other than centuries of suffering. He might have had it rougher than anyone else I know. And I'm not some bleeding heart, but he broke down when we were in the church - before we got the baptism and went back to normal.
I told him I wouldn't forget.
He's no saint, but he doesn't deserve to be struck down when he's not in his right mind.
I'm sorry to hear that. Really. I don't wish more suffering on him. But having a hard life doesn't mean you get to attack people. If he really doesn't mean it, he should be glad to be restrained until he's normal again.
You keep worrying like his death is for certain. I don't see any heads on stakes. You should have a little more faith in people.
You always say that, but you keep doing it. And in the same ways.
When we get home, I'm going to live authentically. No matter the cost. I know it'll be steep, and I know it'll be dangerous, but I have to do it. I don't think you'll be able to handle that.
Well it doesn't exactly feel so good having certain things thrown in my face either, Skip. The exhibitionist comment, really? Accusing me of being unhelpful - letting people suffer on purpose? ...Embry?
I know you are. I want that for you - I want it for both of us. I've seen what living without you and without the truth looks like, and it's not worth it.
I wouldn't have to throw it in your face if you weren't doing the same thing a year later.
But the exhibitionist thing was out of line. That's not anyone's business.
You say that now. But you would have had me hide over a pressing, violent incident. There's gonna be threats. From a lot of different angles. Someone, someday, will probably go through with it. If you can't trust my judgement on how to deal with it, why would you want to be with me at all?
Last time I checked, Jesus didn't forgive everyone for crucifying him and guilt them when they made a mistake again.
I said some things that were uncalled for too.
I know there will, okay? But the difference is - we'd be together. To work through it together, to protect each other and come up with ways to be impactful and precise in our actions. And yeah, things might come up that are spontaneous. But my ask to you is not to be so goddamn reckless about where and how you jump in to deal with it.
I'm not - judging you for wanting to help. You think I don't want to see things change here or there either? That I don't have feel guilt for the ones I let down and walked over to protect myself? Christ, why the hell do you think I still see Kenny and Lenny and Senator Smith?
I'm not Him. You can't hold me to a standard you don't even believe in.
I'm not trying to be reckless just to make you mad. You seem to think that because I didn't make the same choice you would have, that I don't think about things before I do them. Lestat says he's secured, not dead, by the way. So you don't have to worry about him.
Will you be out there with me, making it happen? That's what I thought this was about. This isn't about Harry, is it?
I'm not holding you to a standard. I'm just pointing out some mild hypocrisy.
Tim, you replied instantly. Publicly. Would it have killed you to take a second to consider how fast that could have gotten you hurt, or done it privately if you wanted to help?
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Date: 2025-08-26 03:00 pm (UTC)Fine, say I put a loaded gun in Danny’s hands and he blows someone’s brains out. Are my hands clean? I’m the reason McCarthy got backed into a corner, you know. I did plenty of things to keep Senator Smith’s hands clean. You send a pack of hyenas after a vampire, someone’s going to get hurt.
Yeah, it is a waste of time. But you drag it there anyway. Do you even trust me anymore?
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Date: 2025-08-26 03:42 pm (UTC)That’s not the same, and you know it. Danny gets off on it. Those people are trained to deal with problems just like this one, and they know that killing him only makes it worse when he gets back. Have a little faith in them not being slobbering idiots. And someone will get hurt if he’s left to keep doing that, too. We need to prioritize the victims over Armand.
I drag it there? The first thing you did was tell me to leave it, like you're my father or my master. You're the one who doesn't trust me. If you don’t trust me, and you don't want the same future I do, then what are we doing?
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Date: 2025-08-27 12:11 am (UTC)Yeah, they're trained in killing these kinds of problems.
We both know I'm not either of those things. I do trust you, Skippy - why do you think I looked high and low to find you after you died, even knowing the things I heard? And why do you think I gave all of myself to you? I didn't do any of that lightly.
The future I want is one where the slightest provocation doesn't send you spiraling back to all the mistakes I've made and throwing them in my face. If we can't move past them, then what are we doing? Maybe I unintentionally started it, but you've got no problem escalating.
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Date: 2025-08-27 12:23 am (UTC)You're not learning from them, Hawk. That's why I brought it up, because you wanted me to shut up like last time. Will you have learned from them by the time we get home? Or will it be like it was before? If you don't want to be with a "crusader", tell me now, because that's how things are going to be.
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Date: 2025-08-27 06:12 pm (UTC)I have learned, Tim. You just don't want to accept that sometimes I'm right, or that my approach is more measured and subtle than yours. I would have gladly jumped in with the best resources to get Armand the help he needed to stop chomping on the Balfours' girl du jour. Like Louis or Lestat - the people who know him and aren't likely to put a fucking stake through his head. If applying logic to it doesn't jive with your idea of immediacy, then that's not crusading - it's just foolish.
I'm not hiding anymore. I've got no intention of going back to the way things were.
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Date: 2025-08-27 06:25 pm (UTC)1/2
Date: 2025-08-28 12:33 am (UTC)She's alive, isn't she?
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Date: 2025-08-28 12:36 am (UTC)I told him I wouldn't forget.
He's no saint, but he doesn't deserve to be struck down when he's not in his right mind.
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Date: 2025-08-28 01:01 am (UTC)You keep worrying like his death is for certain. I don't see any heads on stakes. You should have a little more faith in people.
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Date: 2025-08-28 01:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-08-28 01:15 am (UTC)If I'm wrong, you can throw it in my face, but until then, I'm not arguing with you about something that hasn't happened.
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Date: 2025-08-28 01:16 am (UTC)So are we done arguing?
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Date: 2025-08-28 01:36 am (UTC)That's not happening, Hawk.
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Date: 2025-08-28 01:39 am (UTC)The flirting, not the insulting.
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Date: 2025-08-28 01:42 am (UTC)1/2
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Date: 2025-08-28 01:51 am (UTC)When we get home, I'm going to live authentically. No matter the cost. I know it'll be steep, and I know it'll be dangerous, but I have to do it. I don't think you'll be able to handle that.
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Date: 2025-08-28 01:54 am (UTC)I know you are. I want that for you - I want it for both of us. I've seen what living without you and without the truth looks like, and it's not worth it.
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Date: 2025-08-28 02:07 am (UTC)But the exhibitionist thing was out of line. That's not anyone's business.
You say that now. But you would have had me hide over a pressing, violent incident. There's gonna be threats. From a lot of different angles. Someone, someday, will probably go through with it. If you can't trust my judgement on how to deal with it, why would you want to be with me at all?
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Date: 2025-08-30 05:39 pm (UTC)I said some things that were uncalled for too.
I know there will, okay? But the difference is - we'd be together. To work through it together, to protect each other and come up with ways to be impactful and precise in our actions. And yeah, things might come up that are spontaneous. But my ask to you is not to be so goddamn reckless about where and how you jump in to deal with it.
I'm not - judging you for wanting to help. You think I don't want to see things change here or there either? That I don't have feel guilt for the ones I let down and walked over to protect myself? Christ, why the hell do you think I still see Kenny and Lenny and Senator Smith?
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Date: 2025-08-30 06:01 pm (UTC)I'm not trying to be reckless just to make you mad. You seem to think that because I didn't make the same choice you would have, that I don't think about things before I do them.
Lestat says he's secured, not dead, by the way. So you don't have to worry about him.
Will you be out there with me, making it happen? That's what I thought this was about. This isn't about Harry, is it?
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Date: 2025-08-30 11:58 pm (UTC)Tim, you replied instantly. Publicly. Would it have killed you to take a second to consider how fast that could have gotten you hurt, or done it privately if you wanted to help?
Tremendous. That's not really the point anymore.
...What? What does Harry have to do with this?
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